Can CO remove cones

[Lola19]

I wondered, I've been a member of the LHC for about 2 months and since then I've been doing CO washing on my hair and I love it, and I've been avoiding anything ending with "Cone" on my hair for the most part, but I sometimes use a serum on my hair to help with frizz, and I wondered if doing CO washing would remove any of it? Or if I should do an ACV rinse once a week to prevent build up. Any suggestions would be great.
Thanks!

[snowbear]

IIRC, CO does not remove cones.
Sorry I coudln't be more help, but I noticed no one had replied to your post, and I wanted to let you know at least someone had read it.

[avery]

If I understand correctly, ACV is just a ph balancer, not a clarifier. You would have to use a SLES shampoo, most likely, to remove the serum cones. You can dilute the shampoo greatly and still have successful results, though.

[Shermie Girl]

I had to do a two-sudsing shampooing, leaving the second one to soak for a few minutes, with clarifying shampoo to get all the cone buildup off my hair when I went no-cone. I was a heavy cone user.:boggle:

[Clare-Dragonfly]

I doubt CO would remove 'cones, and ACV would not do so either. You can use a sulfate shampoo as avery suggested, or try adding a pinch of baking soda to your washing conditioner--it's a powerful clarifier, though it can be a bit drying.

[CurlyKitten]

I doubt CO would remove 'cones, and ACV would not do so either. You can use a sulfate shampoo as avery suggested, or try adding a pinch of baking soda to your washing conditioner--it's a powerful clarifier, though it can be a bit drying.

Just to clarify (no pun intended) baking soda will not remove cones. You need a sulfate shampoo to do that :grinhappy: Some cones can also be removed with coco betaine, which is more gentle.

[Clare-Dragonfly]

Just to clarify (no pun intended) baking soda will not remove cones. You need a sulfate shampoo to do that :grinhappy: Some cones can also be removed with coco betaine, which is more gentle.

Are you sure about that? I've always been told to use baking soda as a clarifier.

[snowbear]

Are you sure about that? I've always been told to use baking soda as a clarifier.
As have I, and it definitely works.

[CurlyKitten]

Are you sure about that? I've always been told to use baking soda as a clarifier.

Here are a couple of interesting pieces of info that explain how to remove cones: http://naturallycurly2.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=45874&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=cones+ions+removal&start=0
and
http://naturallycurly2.com/curlcolumns/articles.php?id=341


Here is another interesting article that tells how you can use oils to remove cones:http://naturallycurly2.com/curlcolumns/articles.php?id=341

HTH :geek:

[cobblersmaid]

I don't think CO would, but I bet baking soda would. I had no cone transition so I am usuall no help with this stuff. I used pantene for years, then one day all we had was this giovanni tea tree stuff that my mom bought. I clarified with baking soda, then dumped EVOO over my hair (my idea of deep condish a year ago) then shampooed and condished with the tea tree stuff. I never used cones again and I assume they are all gone, even though I don't think I have used sulfates since.

I dunno that is just my experiance.

[Gladtobemom]

1-2 tablespoons baking soda to 1/4-1/3 cup of VO5 Key lime squeeze (KLS) conditioner works like a charm. Just "wash" your hair twice with it, massaging your scalp well and squeezing it gently through your hair.

Then follow up with straight VO5 KLS to help make sure all the baking soda is out.

ACV rinse (2 tablespoons Apple cider Vineger or white vinegar with 3 cups filtered or distilled water) I find that the chlorine is just too much on hair at this point.

Now condition with a nice rich cone free conditioner like Elucense Moisture Balance or Giovanni 50/50 or Suave Naturals Coconut.

Now rinse rinse rinse.

You can use a Turbie type towel and then put a little (4-5 drops of Monoi or Coconut oil on your ends.
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If you have curly or wavy hair, try plopping.

I use a size 8 kid's Tshirt with the arms sewn or tied off.

I just pull the shirt over my head and leave it bunched around my neck, turn my head completely upside down and finger comb.

Then I slide the shirt neck to my hairline and
open the shirt down over my hair and sort of
lift my hair into the chamber of the shirt.

Stand up and hold the shirt up making a cup by pinching it at the back or side.

Then I can dump the rest of my hair into the shirt. I just pull the shirt together with my hair piled on top my head and anchor the shirt with a bit strong Oxo chip clip.

Then don't touch until dry or morning. Shake your hair out a bit and finger style. Body and curls to spare. If you have waves, this can really bring aout curls.

[Phoenix_Red]

There are also 2 water soluble cones, dimethicone copoloyol, and another one (Sorry, can't remember, but you could probably google it) If you use those two, coing and acv will absolutely take care of it.

[Lola19]

Wow! Thanks everyone for all the great responses! I am trying soo very hard not to use cones of any kind, but my hair is (for LHC people) 2c/3a,M/C,iii. If you don't know what this means, pretty much it's really thick wavy/curly and med/course textured. I have recently moved back to south florida where the humidity is insane most of the year and before when I used cones the only thing that would help me not frizz was lots of serum and or mousse. Now I've tried a mixture of 100% aloe gel (from Lily of the Desert) and jojoba oil to prevent frizzies and give my waves/curles a nice texture, but my ends seem to stay quite dry when I do this (and I hate dry/ hard feeling hair). So a few times in the last 2 weeks I've been using a serum on my hair (John Frieda Frizz Ease). And I love how it makes my hair feel. So i'm basically trying to find the right thing that will leave my hair soft, encourage waves/curles, and not leave my hair hard. I'm on a mission. :-)

[Carolyn]

Keep in mind that we all have different types of hair so things are going to work differently. I CO quite often and CO (with White Rain or VO5) will not get cone residue off my hair. It will clean the natural greasies and sebum but not cones. If I have used some cone products and I am noticing build up, I will use a shampoo that says specifically it's a CLARIFYING shampoo. I may even do 2 sudsings if I think the build up calls for it. I will then treat my hair to something like an SMT made with conditioner or conditioners that are non cone and moisturizing or I'll do a deep treatment with a product made for deep conditioning with my heat cap. That will re-moisturize my hair after being cleansed with the clarifying conditioner. How often I have to do that depends on how much I am using cone products.