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Airmide
June 11th, 2006, 07:01 PM
I've been wondering about the ingredients in a few different products, and how they're obtained.
I've read so much about V05 Kiwi Lime Squeeze and wanted to try it but I saw Collagen listed as an ingredient, which I've also seen in some other products and I was concerned about it's origins. I wrote to V05 and here's the reply I got:
"In regards to your query on collagen, we have included answers on that ingredient and others that we use in our manufacture. Hydrolyzed animal protein, collagen, and elastin are by-products of the meat processing industry, but none are pork derived. Animals are not killed for obtaining these ingredients."
Of course to me the claim that no animals were killed to obtain these ingredients is sort of like saying no cows are killed to make hamburgers because they're just a byproduct of the leather industry lol.
So I won't be using any products that contain hydrolyzed animal protein, collagen or elastin. But what about Emu Oil? I assume that's not collected by say...petting the emu, right?(I was at a petting zoo last weekend and the emu scared me!) And are sheep harmed in collecting Lanolin?
What other products should I be aware of that might sound harmless but are really not "cruelty free"?
-Airmide (cool siggy coming soon! :ginger:)
eiyela
June 11th, 2006, 11:48 PM
http://www.happycow.net/health-animal-ingredients.html
http://differentdaisy.com/combo/blogplusproducts.htm
http://www.geari.org/cruelty-free-shopping-products.html
Here are some sites with listings of vegetarian and vegan products. The first link also contains common ingredients in products which are of animal origin. I'm not a vegetarian myself, but I still try to at least buy products that haven't been tested on animals.
http://www.caringconsumer.com/resources_companies.asp
That's the PETA list of companies that do/don't test on animals.
And no, Emu Oil isn't exactly cruelty-free. HTH:innocent:
BBGrrl
June 12th, 2006, 09:36 PM
I have no idea on the rest of the stuff but lanolin is collected after the sheep is sheered. I am guessing it is close to scritching by how it was described to me.
BTW PETA tends to use the worst case senario and says it is how all animals are treated. I know many farmers who treat their animals wonderfully. we even kept our goats in the house as pets:parp: .
trolleypup
June 12th, 2006, 10:14 PM
Keep in mind that many companies don't do testing themselves, but may have it done by other companies, or they may use ingredients that have been animal tested, even though the final product has not been. If you follow the paper trail far enough back, virtually every ingredient in use has been tested on animals...and that data is used by companies that don't do animal testing.
Nastasska
June 12th, 2006, 10:20 PM
Unfortunently it is very hard to find any product that hasn't been tested on animals at some point or other:pissed:
Another thing that is difficult is finding cruelty free products for acne prone skin
Lady Godiva
June 13th, 2006, 04:46 AM
Keep in mind that many companies don't do testing themselves, but may have it done by other companies, or they may use ingredients that have been animal tested, even though the final product has not been. If you follow the paper trail far enough back, virtually every ingredient in use has been tested on animals...and that data is used by companies that don't do animal testing.Yeah, a lot of them can get away with stating they're cruelty-free because all of the testing was done 30-40-50 years ago. :rolleyes:
kimberlily
June 13th, 2006, 06:36 AM
Sheep aren't harmed in the lanolin collection process. It is extracted from from the wool after the sheep are sheared :)
ETA: I'm still going to use my Kiwi Lime Squeeze. I eat beef, so it would make me a bit of a hypocrite to stop using my fave CO condish because one of its ingredients is animal-derived. I do tend to prefer cruelty-free products, and those that aren't tested on animals, but I know that it is hard to avoid entirely because as others have already said, just because a product isn't tested on animals doesn't mean the ingredients aren't.
alys
February 27th, 2008, 10:09 AM
emu oil can only be harvested when the emu is not alive...gross
Darscilla
February 27th, 2008, 01:24 PM
I have no idea on the rest of the stuff but lanolin is collected after the sheep is sheered. I am guessing it is close to scritching by how it was described to me.
BTW PETA tends to use the worst case senario and says it is how all animals are treated. I know many farmers who treat their animals wonderfully. we even kept our goats in the house as pets:parp: .
ROFL at the little 'parp' after stating your goats lived in the house! I can just imagine! :lafhard: :lafhard: :lafhard:
Chamomile betty
February 27th, 2008, 01:42 PM
Unfortunently it is very hard to find any product that hasn't been tested on animals at some point or other:pissed:
Another thing that is difficult is finding cruelty free products for acne prone skin
I agree. I really try to strive at using cruelty free products.
It's good we are trying :innocent:
cobblersmaid
February 27th, 2008, 03:29 PM
The Body Shop is cruelty-free, and supposedly hold their suppliers to the same code. You can't be sure though.
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